You may find these statements interesting. I lifted them from a discussion I was
in, concerning the abortion protestor who went into a church service
and killed an abortionist.
Initial Question
Initial Question
The question was asked by a newspaper
writer if it is murder when an abortionist is shot dead in a church.
MY ANSWER BELOW.
DLG said...
Yes (it is murder). And
is is wrong.
And the abortionist is a multiple murderer and it is wrong many times over
The abortionist kills the innocents, who have done nothing to deserve burning, chopping, beheading and being sucked apart.
The abortionist kills those who are unable to defend or protect themselves.
The abortionist kills for money
The abortionist kills and gets awards and honors.
The abortionist kills and then his killer is thought of
as a monster.
The Nazi death camp officers were guilty of genocide, the abortionist is guilty of genocide.
In fact, the high ratio of little black babies that are murdered by abortionists is a often racially motivated. (I mention the racial issue because the person who started the discussion is black, therefore the information was relevant).
Yes, the gunman is guilty of murder and it is wrong. Too bad that lawmen, who are sworn to "protect and to serve" don't stop the abortionists after they brutally murder one baby.
Someone argued
that the abortions are legal.
DLG said...
My answer is based on the Biblical
model. It is murder for someone to kill, as did the gunman, and it is
murder, genocide, to kill, as do the abortionists. Something may be
legal and still be immoral at the same time. Also, something may be
illegal and moral at the same time. If we are looking at this from
simply a human point of view, I suppose people can get confused. But
the moral standard of the Bible is not confused.
Someone addressed the extremism of killing in a church, implying the Doctor was a Chrstian.
DLG said...
In fact,
doctors do set up their premeditated hits at churches, among other
places.
The action of a lone or even a relative few nut cases does not truly represent the pro-life position. How absurd. However, the murderous abortionist does truly represent the so called pro-choice (actually pro-death) position. The abortionist does not have to hunt down their victims, because our warped government has made it open season on the pre-born. One loony tunes kills a murderer and all pro-lifers get blamed.
The action of a lone or even a relative few nut cases does not truly represent the pro-life position. How absurd. However, the murderous abortionist does truly represent the so called pro-choice (actually pro-death) position. The abortionist does not have to hunt down their victims, because our warped government has made it open season on the pre-born. One loony tunes kills a murderer and all pro-lifers get blamed.
Someone erroneously stated that the
pro-lifers don't do anything to help the pregnant girls.
DLG said...
Christians, and those who have been
influenced by the Christian ethic, have provided homes, shelters,
medical care, emotional support, adoption and all manner of help to
those who have given birth and to those who have been birthed. We
have also been there to pick up the shattered lives of young women
who have been abused by the pro-death people and the abortion
industry. In fact, the Biblical Christian loves the baby murderers
and the victimized young women. I am sorry that the reader has never read up on these things and that she
surrounds herself with people who promote errant propaganda. There
are those who treat this issue as simply a social ill, while there
are those who show the active love of Christ. You really don't want
to compare the ministries of mercy by Christians against the
heartless murder for hire of the pro-death movement.
Again, I say, "a relative few nut cases" have nothing to do with the pro-life movement. What part of that do you not understand?
A liberal participant mistakenly said I had used the "Hitler" Card.
DLG said...
I don't think I said "Hitler."
I said the officers in Nazi death camps. My point being that those
men committed genocide, as do the abortionists, however, those men
were considered War Criminals, unlike abortionists who are considered
heroes to the pro-death movement.
God has given the sword to the State to protect the righteous and punish the wicked, so I do not believe individuals have the right to execute others. But I do believe the State must stop, rather than fund and approve those who commit genocide.
One of the participants said that Christians resort to killing.
DLG said...
Let me say it again clearly, CHRISTIANS DO NOT ADVOCATE THE MURDERING OF
ABORTIONISTS. Those who do, are not Biblical Christians. The stated
purpose of the pro-lifer is to save lives. The stated purpose of the
abortionist is to KILL.
We were reminded that the Nazi soldiers were under orders, as if that mattered.
DLG said...
Nazi officers, along with others
throughout history, have been accused, found guilty and executed for
war crimes, including genocide. Just follow the argument. But,
regardless of what men may say, we all know that it was wrong for
those men to kill Jews and others, just as it is wrong to kill
blacks. Likewise it is wrong for doctors, who do it for money and
other wicked reasons, to kill the pre-born. Killing, murder if you
choose, is wrong, whether ordered by Hitler or approved by the United
States Supreme Court. It would be good if people asked why they want
to justify baby killers.
By the way, if the abortionist could
choose his own violent death, would he rather be shot, or chopped up,
or have his throat slit, or be chemically burned to death, or have
his limbs ripped apart by a suction device or have his head cut off?
Which would be the least horrific experience for the victim and which
would be the least horrific memory for the surviving family members?
Which kind of murder requires the least cold blood? Someone who
murders by gunshot is a criminal, someone who murders through
chopping, throat slitting, chemical burning, dismembering or
decapitation is a monster also known as an abortionist.
Someone
asked when the killing would stop (referring to the anti-abortionists,
I believe).
DLG
said...
Yes, when is the killing in the
hospital, clinics and doctors offices going to stop?
4,000+ murdered babies per day in USA or about 1.5 million a year since 1973.
That is like 1 and 1/3, 9-11 attacks every day since 1973.
That is almost 24 Oklahoma City bombings every day since 1973.
That is over 25 Viet Nam wars a year, since 1973.
Yes, when will the killing stop?
Though the white population is consistently between 70% and 80% and the black population is consistently below 12%, the percentage of black abortions is consistently over 30%. Yes, when is the killing going to stop?
Person asked how I would handle an abortionist coming to my church.
DLG said...
Thank you for asking. I
don't believe the doctor would have gone to my church. Not because we
would not have loved him and prayed for him, but because he would not
attend a church that does not believe in killing the
pre-born.
However, I can tell you how I, as a pastor, do handle it. I teach my people that we are to live the life of Christ in this present world. We are to love our enemies and we are to give our lives rather than take life. I also lead our people in praying for these doctors and their families before they are brutally murdered and for their families, after the heinous crimes against them.
But stop and think about it. Think how many cry for the few doctors and how few cry for the millions of babies. The true Christian cries for all of them.
JUST IN CASE WE DID NOT GET THOSE FIGURES... IT IS 50 MILLION ABORTIONS IN THE USA, SINCE 1973.
In order to be a faithful minister of Christ, I must tell the whole truth, not just tickle people's ears. While it is true that some like to wield the Bible as a whip, I use it as a two edged sword. It does cut, but it cuts us free from sin and suffering. We would not sugar coat other issues of life. We would not cover up the ugliness of racism. The fact is that life is filled with violence and consequence. I warn children of the dangers of light sockets and guns and drugs. I preach the truth in love. Anyone who raises a child without being honest about the dangers of life is endangering that child. We err if we do not warn young women about the dangers of killing the pre-born. Lack of love fails to warn people of impending danger. Actually, young women can't make intelligent decisions without the facts. I respect their intelligence enough to tell them the truth. Pro-death does not tell them the truth.
Launch Out and Hold Fast,
Pastor David L. Gould
